• Immortal Barons

    From Andy Alt@21:4/106 to All on Saturday, July 04, 2026 15:00:26
    This is a game I'm working on.

    Immortal Barons

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons

    Immortal Barons is a turn-based strategy game for the terminal. You rule a barony in a ruined, post-apocalyptic
    world. You buy land, feed your people, build an army, and fight rival empires. The goal is to have the highest
    net worth when the turns run out, or to conquer everyone else.

    The game is written in Go. It is an independent remake, inspired by the 1990s BBS door game Barren Realms
    Elite.

    Early work in progress. Immortal Barons is not ready for real play-testing or inter-BBS (IBBS) play yet.
    Mechanics are still changing.


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to Andy Alt on Saturday, July 04, 2026 23:38:22
    This is a game I'm working on.

    Immortal Barons

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons


    Sounds very interesting. Keep us up to date on your progress, in particular when it is ready for "live" BBS testing.

    Mike

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Andy Alt on Sunday, July 05, 2026 13:33:00

    This is a game I'm working on.

    Immortal Barons

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons

    Will it support winsockets? That seems to be the trickiest part for door developers...

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  • From Andy Alt@21:4/106 to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 14:54:12
    Dumas Walker wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    Sounds very interesting. Keep us up to date on your progress, in particular when it is ready for "live" BBS testing.

    Mike

    Sure... I setup a Mystic BBS today and added it as a door. Worked pretty well.

    As for when it's ready for "live" testing, do you mean when all the known bugs are worked out? It's playable now, but some of the math may be off. Pretty soon, I'll need more feedback about that. And there's a couple dip options that haven't been implemented yet. Basically if you're just curious, you might want to set it up as a door (https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/door-setup/) and play a few turns. Otherwise, I'll certainly remember to post here when it's more developed.

    As for IBBS, I haven't done enough testing on that to say it's even test-playable yet, so I wouldn't suggest to testing that yet to anyone (unless you're a developer thinking about contributing).


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  • From Andy Alt@21:4/106 to Shurato on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 14:54:12
    Shurato wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    Will it support winsockets? That seems to be the trickiest part for
    door developers...

    Thank you for the question! This is my first door and I hadn't given that any thought. I've implemented it but don't have a live Windows BBS to test it on. Some info about winsock support for Immortal Barons at https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/door-setup/#how-the-game-talks-to-th
    -caller
    Please let me know if you try
    it out and your results.

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to Andy Alt on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 23:41:10

    Sounds very interesting. Keep us up to date on your progress, in particular when it is ready for "live" BBS testing.

    Sure... I setup a Mystic BBS today and added it as a door. Worked pretty well.

    As for when it's ready for "live" testing, do you mean when all the known bugs are worked out? It's playable now, but some of the math may be off. Pretty soon, I'll need more feedback about that. And there's a couple dip options that haven't been implemented yet. Basically if you're just curious, you might want to set it up as a door (https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/door-setup/) and play a few turns. Otherwise, I'll certainly remember to post here when it's more developed.


    Sorry I think I read something wrong and had the impression that you didn't really think it was ready for others to be installing yet. ;) I am curious enough that I will try to grab a copy in the next couple of days.



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  • From Andy Alt@21:4/106 to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, July 07, 2026 18:20:18
    Dumas Walker wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    Sorry I think I read something wrong and had the impression that you didn't really think it was ready for others to be installing yet. ;)
    I am curious enough that I will try to grab a copy in the next couple
    of days.

    Not your fault, I think I wasn't too clear. So... I would say it's not ready enough for regular players. They may find very unwanted design problems after a few days into a game. At this point, if a sysop is curious about the game and wants to try it for the purpose of reporting bugs, general feedback, UX problems (I do look and test for these myself so they should be rare at this point), then I would encourage installing Immortal Barons as a door that's not visible to other users. For players who are curious, I would say, give it a try, but don't plan on having a long game yet.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Andy Alt on Wednesday, July 08, 2026 20:32:00

    Dumas Walker wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    Sorry I think I read something wrong and had the impression that you didn't really think it was ready for others to be installing yet. ;) I am curious enough that I will try to grab a copy in the next couple of days.

    Not your fault, I think I wasn't too clear. So... I would say it's not ready enough for regular players. They may find very unwanted design problems after a few days into a game. At this point, if a sysop is curious about the game and wants to try it for the purpose of reporting bugs, general feedback, UX problems (I do look and test for these myself so they should be rare at this point), then I would encourage installing Immortal Barons as a door that's not visible to other users. For players who are curious, I would say, give it a try, but don't plan on having a long game yet.

    There is a snapshot binary available! I got the Win32 version. It appears
    to be UTF-8 Instead of CP-437, though.

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  • From Andy Alt@21:4/106 to Shurato on Thursday, July 09, 2026 09:35:08
    Shurato wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    There is a snapshot binary available! I got the Win32 version. It appears to be UTF-8 Instead of CP-437, though.

    Thank you for the report. I've pushed a fix and new snapshots are available. There is also a document now at
    https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/charset/

    You probably won't need to read that though, Immortal Barons should just work with cp437 encoding on your BBS automatically.

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Andy Alt on Thursday, July 09, 2026 12:09:00

    Shurato wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    There is a snapshot binary available! I got the Win32 version. It appears to be UTF-8 Instead of CP-437, though.

    Thank you for the report. I've pushed a fix and new snapshots are available. There is also a document now at https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/charset/

    You probably won't need to read that though, Immortal Barons should just work with cp437 encoding on your BBS automatically.

    Thanks. I saw that the snapshot area was empty...

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Andy Alt on Thursday, July 09, 2026 12:11:00

    Shurato wrote to Andy Alt <=-

    There is a snapshot binary available! I got the Win32 version. It appears to be UTF-8 Instead of CP-437, though.

    Thank you for the report. I've pushed a fix and new snapshots are available. There is also a document now at https://andy5995.github.io/immortal-barons/charset/

    You probably won't need to read that though, Immortal Barons should just work with cp437 encoding on your BBS automatically.

    Nevermind, found it! It was hidden because it had just been updated!

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:3/235 to All on Tuesday, September 08, 2026 15:28:17
    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear. ---

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Geri Atricks on Tuesday, September 08, 2026 18:03:00

    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear.

    Are you in a league?

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  • From andy5995@21:4/107 to Geri Atricks on Wednesday, September 09, 2026 03:21:22
    Geri Atricks wrote to All on 09/08/2026 15:28 <=-

    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear. ---

    Thank you! I've added your BBS to the list at

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/discussions/132

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:3/235 to Shurato on Wednesday, September 09, 2026 16:25:54
    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear.

    Are you in a league?

    Not yet. Just running it locally atm to make sure it's working properly.
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  • From andy5995@21:4/107 to Geri Atricks on Saturday, September 12, 2026 21:01:43
    Geri Atricks wrote to All on 09/08/2026 15:28 <=-

    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear. ---

    I left some feedback to All on your board a few days ago. Trying to send feedback to "sysop" returned unknown user.

    When I log in, I get a stream of info, that looks similar to this output:

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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to andy5995 on Sunday, September 13, 2026 16:05:26
    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very stable. No resets have been required for the past few versions and I don't anticipate any in the near future. I can pretty comfortably recommend it now
    for your users to play on your BBS.

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/releases/tag/v0.0.9


    Thanks, I finally got it downloaded and started installing it. Need to finish getting it added to the BBS and try it out!


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  • From Geri Atricks@21:3/235 to andy5995 on Sunday, September 13, 2026 10:36:21
    Immortal Barons is now available in the "D"oors menu on Legends of Yesteryear. ---

    I left some feedback to All on your board a few days ago. Trying to send feedback to "sysop" returned unknown user.

    I got your message (thanx) and replied to it. That issue is fixed now.

    When I log in, I get a stream of info, that looks similar to this output:

    That is the system playing the sound of a 56k modem on my end to let me know somone has logged in. Have not been able to figure out how to prevent the screen output.
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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to andy5995 on Thursday, September 17, 2026 15:47:24
    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very stable. No resets have been required for the past few versions and I don't anticipate any in the near future. I can pretty comfortably recommend it now
    for your users to play on your BBS.

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/releases/tag/v0.0.9


    OK so I have finished the install. The game works just fine so long as I am logged on via telnet. Looks great so far!

    However, if I log on via SSH (my preferred connection method), the game does not start. The following error shows up in the BBS console:

    immortal-barons: line 2 (socket handle): socket mode needs a handle, got -1

    I can pass it a socket handle but do not see an immortal-barons command line option that will accept it if I pass it. Is there a command line option that I am failing to see?

    This is with stdio redirect set to TRUE on my BBS. If I set it to FALSE, the game displays on the BBS console instead of to the user... all the user sees is my door menu and what appears to be a frozen BBS. I can unfreeze by exiting the game on the BBS terminal.

    This behavior makes me believe that stdio = TRUE is the correct setting on my BBS.

    Thanks!


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  • From Dumas Walker@21:1/175 to andy5995 on Friday, September 18, 2026 19:04:18
    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very stable. No resets have been required for the past few versions and I don't anticipate any in the near future. I can pretty comfortably recommend it now
    for your users to play on your BBS.

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/releases/tag/v0.0.9


    I don't have a github account (don't need one) so I cannot post issues there. While trying to fix my SSH issue, I found another one.

    2026-09-18 13:49:24 drop file parse failed: path="/home/bbs/Public/Scorpio/var/scorpio/node1/door32.sys" format="doorsys" err=DOOR.SYS too short: 11 lines, want >=21
    2026-09-18 13:51:05 drop file parse failed: path="/home/bbs/Public/Scorpio/var/scorpio/node1/door32.sys" format="dorinfo" err=DORINFO1.DEF too short: 11 lines, want >=12

    When I set the game to use DOOR.SYS or DORINFO1.DEF, it tries to read the DOOR32.SYS file instead and finds it to be too short to be the type of drop file I requested.

    Mike

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  • From andy5995@21:4/107 to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 03, 2026 21:47:07
    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very stable. No resets have been required for the past few versions and I don't anticipate any in the near future. I can pretty comfortably recommend it now for your users to play on your BBS.

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/releases/tag/v0.0.9


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  • From Geri Atricks@21:3/235 to andy5995 on Friday, September 18, 2026 17:04:38
    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very

    I'm currently running immortal-barons-v0.0.10-linux-amd64.tar.gz according to the file that I downloaded.
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  • From andy5995@21:4/107 to Dumas Walker on Friday, September 18, 2026 20:35:01
    Dumas Walker wrote to andy5995 on 09/18/2026 19:04 <=-

    I don't have a github account (don't need one) so I cannot post issues there. While trying to fix my SSH issue, I found another one.

    2026-09-18 13:49:24 drop file parse failed: path="/home/bbs/Public/Scorpio/var/scorpio/node1/door32.sys" format="doorsys" err=DOOR.SYS too short: 11 lines, want >=21 2026-09-18 13:51:05 drop file parse failed: path="/home/bbs/Public/Scorpio/var/scorpio/node1/door32.sys" format="dorinfo" err=DORINFO1.DEF too short: 11 lines, want >=12

    When I set the game to use DOOR.SYS or DORINFO1.DEF, it tries to read
    the DOOR32.SYS file instead and finds it to be too short to be the type
    of drop file I requested.

    Hi Mike,

    If you change the command to run the door using a different dropfile, you first have to use -set-dropfile so Immortal Barons knows which dropfile to read.

    But the error message you got from IB was wrong, so that's fixed. It should be more specific now, something like

    immortal-barons: door32.sys does not parse as DOOR.SYS (DOOR.SYS too short: >11 lines, want >=21)

    As for the problem with ssh, I've added a fix for that but haven't tested with the same BBS software you are using. It's been working when I ssh to synchronet when I play it on X-bit and uniX-bit bbs.

    Could you try the latest snapshot?

    https://github.com/andy5995/immortal-barons/releases/tag/snapshot

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  • From andy5995@21:4/107 to Geri Atricks on Friday, September 18, 2026 20:35:01
    Geri Atricks wrote to andy5995 on 09/18/2026 17:04 <=-

    Dumas, I released v0.0.9 of Immortal Barons today. Non-IBBS play is very

    I'm currently running immortal-barons-v0.0.10-linux-amd64.tar.gz
    according to the file that I downloaded.
    ---

    Nice! I've added a lot of minor bug fixes and released v0.1.2. You can update to that anytime you feel like it. You do not have to reset the game that you're currently running, just use the new binary.


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