On 20 Aug 2025 at 09:09a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<enter>, you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to the
TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connection drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the
inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

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Re: Re: 3270 BBS
By: Dumas Walker to SLACKER on Wed Aug 20 2025 09:09 am

Howdy,

Getting into SDSF and seeing user sessions "running" was pretty neat for an old mainframe user. Probably wouldn't mean anything to someone who'd never seen such a thing. ;)

Did you see the MVS console M -> O?

You can issue some mvs console commands :)


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Did you see the MVS console M -> O?

You can issue some mvs console commands :)

No, I will have to check that out.


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On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<enter>, you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to the TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connection drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the
inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been
about TSS. ;)


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On 21 Aug 2025 at 09:21a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

On a "real" mainframe, that is how it works. When you type 'x'<ent you are logging out of the user interface. That takes you out to t TSO "command line" where you type in "logoff"<enter> and the connec drops.

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the
beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

https://community.cadence.com/cadence_blogs_8/b/breakfast-bytes/posts/kernighan

(In the section, "Meeting Brian"; I guess Brian Kernighan [co-author
of, "The C Programming Language", along with Dennis Ritchie, who created
the C language, and long-time Bell Labs researcher who's now at Princeton
and Google] either coined it or relayed it.)

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Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have been about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

Interesting. I never found it to be nearly that tedious.


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On 22 Aug 2025 at 10:49a, Dumas Walker pondered and said...

Ah...TSO. I can't remember if it was TSO or TSS that was the inspiration for the old quip about kicking a dead whale down the beach.

Since I have never heard that old quip, I am guessing it must have about TSS. ;)

Ah, apparently it _was_ about TSO. Paul McLellan wrote about it
over on the cadence blog:

Interesting. I never found it to be nearly that tedious.

At some point, someone had written a fake shell for Unix that
mimmicked TSS or TSO, as a joke. It was unpleasant.

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